Sunday, 27 Jan 2013 ASIC Update Discussion Thread

**grnbrg** · 01-27-2013, 03:22 PM

BFL ASIC Status, Update #3

Frist psot!

Although there are parts that will make the Fine Gentlemen at BitcoinTalk shriek "Delay!" and "Scam!" again, it seems like a good update. In particular the timeframe between the first and second set of six wafers is nice and short -- I was a bit worried it would be longer.

Thanks, Josh!

grnbrg.

**firehopper** · 01-27-2013, 03:25 PM

yeah I agree, nice update

**Jeroenn13** · 01-27-2013, 03:33 PM

But what is wrong with the 1/3 shipping plans. It should be different, like 6 wafers FIFO and the others with the 1/3 shipping plan thats like it works in every business. I still dont get it, someone ordered today is still able to receive the product quicker than someone who ordered 6 months ago.

**SLok** · 01-27-2013, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Jeroenn13

But what is wrong with the 1/3 shipping plans. It should be different, like 6 wafers FIFO and the others with the 1/3 shipping plan thats like it works in every business. I still dont get it, someone ordered today is still able to receive the product quicker than someone who ordered 6 months ago.

Please inform yourself a bit before you post:
Quote from the faq:

What is your 1/3 shipping plan?

Because of the potential for massive disruption that our ASIC units may cause to the mining ecosystem, we are instituting a 1/3 shipping method for our first shipment of products to individuals. So that no single person or handful of people are able to gain a material advantage over any other, we will ship all our available units at the same time to as many customers as we can. This means we will likely delay shipping on our first units until we have accumulated enough stock to satisfy a significant portion of our initial orders. This ensures that as many people as possible who are early adopters are equally and fairly treated when receiving our product. To that end we will be shipping our first orders as such: 1/3 of each product line (Jalapeno, Little Single SC, Single SC and Minirig SC) will be shipping to new orders, 1/3 to upgrade orders and the final 1/3 will be shipped to a random selection of orders from the first two categories (both upgrade and new customers) received in the first month of orders (From 23 June 2012 to 22 July 2012).

**donkey** · 01-27-2013, 03:53 PM

1/3 shipping sounds more like a way to avoid people saying dumb shit like "why did that guy with order #1321 get his stuff before my I did with order #1203 ?" I'd hate to try shipping anything sequentially with that many orders on hand.

**Jeroenn13** · 01-27-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by donkey

1/3 shipping sounds more like a way to avoid people saying dumb shit like "why did that guy with order #1321 get his stuff before my I did with order #1203 ?" I'd hate to try shipping anything sequentially with that many orders on hand.

Yeah. FIFO is fair. The 1/3 shipping plan is just a method to get more new customers. Plain bullshit

**BFL_Josh** · 01-27-2013, 04:48 PM

Well, to be honest, I think the need for a 1/3 shipping plan no longer exists... but we have committed to it, so we are sticking with it. When the plan was first devised, it was under the assumption we would be the only one shipping ASICs (and that still may be the case) and we would have a much larger quantity on hand in the first shipment than we are going to have. I wouldn't say it's bullshit, but it's utility is drastically reduced in the face of the current ASIC climate.

**HDSolar** · 01-27-2013, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by BFL_Josh

Well, to be honest, I think the need for a 1/3 shipping plan no longer exists... but we have committed to it, so we are sticking with it. When the plan was first devised, it was under the assumption we would be the only one shipping ASICs (and that still may be the case) and we would have a much larger quantity on hand in the first shipment than we are going to have. I wouldn't say it's bullshit, but it's utility is drastically reduced in the face of the current ASIC climate.

Thats what I was thinking and wrote that up a few weeks back but nooooooo everyone was like "its still valid". FIFO makes to most sense if others ship ASICs otherwise if BFL is raining ASICs chips and everyone else is still trying to ship then the 1/3 made sense.

Oh well just nice to see the comment,

**Ivan Frimmel** · 01-30-2013, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by BFL_Josh

Well, to be honest, I think the need for a 1/3 shipping plan no longer exists... but we have committed to it, so we are sticking with it. When the plan was first devised, it was under the assumption we would be the only one shipping ASICs (and that still may be the case) and we would have a much larger quantity on hand in the first shipment than we are going to have. I wouldn't say it's bullshit, but it's utility is drastically reduced in the face of the current ASIC climate.

Consistency counts - The 1/3 shipping plan has been around since almost the very beginning .. for someone to say that it's bullshit now is really quite ridiculous.

I read nothing in the update that concerns me at all. Thanks Josh.